TB BUCS & BROWNS DISCUSSING MAYFIELD

Hey Coffee: I think you have hit the nail on the head.

I haven't watched enough of them to what what Brown (..???) or Garoppolo can do for you, but here are my questions:

Brown: (..???)  Didn't he basically show himself to be moderate even with a magnificent amount of talent around him? 
I assume you mean the Browns team and Mayfield??

If so, I see him as absolutely no upgrade of Darnold and would very much prefer to see what Darnold can do with CMC and a decent line.

EXACTLY... You are correct. Mayfield has been an underperformer since he started. And he has had a LOT of talent around him continuously. Darnold has also underperformed, but he has played under a severe handicap with little or no talent until last year. And then he lost his main offensive help (McCaffrey..), and had a revolving door for an O-line that was incredibly BAD.  Also Darnold has played for four years averaging just 12 games per year. That means he lost 25% (or MORE..) of his time to injuries. He has taken a terrific hammering every year with little or no protection. The Panthers brought him here and proceeded to get him injured again, playing IN (not necessarily  starting..) 12 out of 17 games. Is it fair to expect him to improve and lead a team with no support and playing constantly injured and under duress?? A NEW team, with a NEW playbook, NEW coaches, NEW scheme, and NO support. It was a 'set-up'. Darnold was set-up to fail. Those hits he took were brutal. The hit that broke his shoulder/collarbone hurts me just to watch it.

I think the Panthers OWE him a chance to play behind some support.

Garoppolo: Similar question.  His team has faired well with him, but how much of that is team and coaching?

If they are truly a Super Bowl ready team as I've heard, then Jimmy seems to be a slightly above average QB that can't stay on the field.

Garoppolo IS different. He has proven himself as a reliable QB with both the Patriots and the 49ers. HOWEVER, as you mentioned, he has struggled staying healthy. There is some question about his recovery after surgery for the torn Labrum in his throwing arm. Garoppolo has always seemed to be just a bit less than he needed to be. Good, but still needing just a touch more to make the jump to highly effective.

I think the only way I'd want either is if we got them for almost nothing and we kept Darnold anyway.  If, and only if, we got him cheap, I wouldn't mind Jimmy G with Sam as backup for when he inevitably gets hurt.  Don't think I want Baker.

I would definitely prefer Garoppolo over Mayfield. Certainly, the deal would have to be 'team-friendly'. I believe that Darnold will improve a lot behind a supportive line and some reliable positional talent.