3 questions

1.  Can xl, well, xl on st?  He’s big n fast…gunner?

2.  Can CSW play fs.  Random, but I think he did it some.  

3. Can Brooks come back strong?  If not we need another rb.  

Edge and lb are our biggest needs, but I feel those?’s are worth pondering first.

Those are random.

XL has demoted twice and has been given a serious warning.  I still think he wan play but he has to be willing to put in a lot of work in the offseason.

Brooks...we can only hope.  He has a great attitude and from 've read also a great work ethic. Never though TD would be back.  Brooks back in good form would be a huge bonus.

CSW...seemed to look good.

Hmm...

XL is  F A S T, especially for a big guy. As far as an 'X' or 'Z' receiver goes he is our fastest and most likely to break clear downfield, over the top. TMac has better hands and so (apparently) does Coker. XL needs to settle down and get serious or he will find himself out of a job. --- As far as ST goes, ??? He could certainly do the job IF he could be taught how to tackle. I don't think he would back away from 'contact'.!!!

CSW -- Wow, dude is little. Not really Safety material (in the typical logical sense..). His most logical position is at Nickel CB. Although, If he was single-high OR had support underneath, he could play FS probably. Not sure about his speed, he'd need to be fast. It would be a definite mismatch if he had to go up against big, strong WRs or TEs over the top or jump-ball situations. - IMO

Brooks -- *sigh*
I sure hope he can come back, although I THINK he's effectively done in this league. Everyone talks so 'positive' about him and how he's going to be a real force. I guess you have to believe in something. After all, what else can the Panther execs say except 'positive' sh*t. - SMH. I don't know. Yes, TD came back from ACL injuries and performed at a high level. So, it CAN be done. But, Brooks is a RB. he makes his coin on his legs. He has to run, stop, man-up and block, cut hard, jump-cut, etc., etc. And with two ACLs on the same knee, in back to back years..!! -- well, I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid.  So, if we rely on Chuba and we lose Rico to FA -- well..... We'll be shopping for another RB for sure. Probably draft one mid-round somewhere, unless Dan knows something we don't - which is undoubtedly true.! I trust Dan. Maybe we pick up a vet somewhere with a few miles left on his wheels..??? --- OR maybe Rico decides to stay..?? (Probably not though...).

Interesting questions. Room for thought prior to the draft...

Everybody keeps comparing Brooks return to a possible Thomas Davis like situation. That’s not a fair assessment, a running back is different than a linebacker in many ways. A linebacker does not have people gunning for him, hitting him below the belt sideways, knocking him sideways, falling on him, pushing him into other people, none of that a running back has heavier, stronger, faster, people to deal with on an average than a linebacker. That’s why they get hurt more. That’s why it’s really hard to come back from ACL or Achilles injury as a RB. Running backs and linebackers are different different positions to a reason it takes a different type of strength and different type of movement. Some is comparable, most, however is not.

Everybody keeps comparing Brooks return to a possible Thomas Davis like situation. That’s not a fair assessment, a running back is different than a linebacker in many ways. A linebacker does not have people gunning for him, hitting him below the belt sideways, knocking him sideways,  falling on him, pushing him into other people, none of that a running back has heavier, stronger, faster, people to deal with on an average than a linebacker. That’s why they get hurt more. That’s why it’s really hard to come back from ACL or Achilles injury as a RB.  Running backs and linebackers are different different positions to a reason it takes a different type of strength and different type of movement.  Some is comparable, most, however is not.

EXACTLY...

I have been saying this since we drafted him. No comparison. A RB makes his living with his legs.

XL. Has failed in some basic fundamentals at WR ( know where the sideline is. Catching it out of bounds doesn’t count ) So fast forward to special teams and I can see him guilty of blocks in the back , horse collar tackles etc .

CSW, hmmm , I’m not impressed with him . Layed too far off receivers in my opinion. He’s really small . But many CB’s are. He’s young, so I’m not giving up on him yet.

Brooks is just a big question mark. We really know very little about him on the NFL field of play. Our fingers are crossed that he can live up to his draft hype. But until he can get on the field and actually play, we don’t know if he’s capable of running on the field.
Yeah , running backs getting hit , especially around the legs so much is different than some other positions

Everybody keeps comparing Brooks return to a possible Thomas Davis like situation. That’s not a fair assessment, a running back is different than a linebacker in many ways. A linebacker does not have people gunning for him, hitting him below the belt sideways, knocking him sideways,  falling on him, pushing him into other people, none of that a running back has heavier, stronger, faster, people to deal with on an average than a linebacker. That’s why they get hurt more. That’s why it’s really hard to come back from ACL or Achilles injury as a RB.  Running backs and linebackers are different different positions to a reason it takes a different type of strength and different type of movement.  Some is comparable, most, however is not.

EXACTLY...

I have been saying this since we drafted him. No comparison. A RB makes his living with his legs.

I believe as well, that he is done.  I don’t see how he’s going to be effective.

#1 i can see him playing a little ST like kickoffs but that is probably it… if even that. He really needs to take this off season and work on his skills, using his body better and of course his feet. He is not going anywhere because Morgan is not going to look bad by trading him, a traded for first rounder for probably a fifth rounder at best.

Now i think it’s important and fair that we also
understand he hasn’t had a QB throwing him the ball also, i saw two overhead shots where he had his man beat downfield against the Rams and either Young couldn’t throw it that far or
he didn’t see him. if XL had one thrown to him and he caught we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

#2 CSW… never a safety. He is a very good tackler but is not good in coverage. back up cb at best. in my opinion. but he sure can tackle them after he allows them to catch it.

#3 Brooks, not a clue but not a lot of hope anyways. i thought we wasted a pick taking a RB with an acl… now he has two…i have zero expectation even if canales wants to sugar coat. even if he plays i will always hold my breath if he cuts back.

going to have to add LT to the needs now, probably top of the list. edge, lb maybe times two, CB ,S, RB maybe all in that order. i can only hope we add a QB in there, a couple later round guys that i like just as much as the early round guys but still a couple years away…. one day, i promise, one day we will be able to draft best available. this is again not that year.

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#1 i can see him playing a little ST like kickoffs but that is probably it… if even that. He really needs to take this off season and work on his skills, using his body better and of course his feet. He is not going anywhere because Morgan is not going to look bad by trading him, a traded for first rounder for probably a fifth rounder at best.

Now i think it’s important and fair that we also
understand he hasn’t had a QB throwing him the ball also, i saw two overhead shots where he had his man beat downfield against the Rams and either Young couldn’t throw it that far or
he didn’t see him. if XL had one thrown to him and he caught we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

#2 CSW… never a safety. He is a very good tackler but is not good in coverage. back up cb at best. in my opinion. but he sure can tackle them after he allows them to catch it.

#3 Brooks, not a clue but not a lot of hope anyways. i thought we wasted a pick taking a RB with an acl… now he has two…i have zero expectation even if canales wants to sugar coat. even if he plays i will always hold my breath if he cuts back.

going to have to add LT to the needs now, probably top of the list. edge, lb maybe times two, CB ,S, RB maybe all in that order. i can only hope we add a QB in there, a couple later round guys that i like just as much as the early round guys but still a couple years away…. one day, i promise, one day we will be able to draft best available. this is again not that year.

Thanks for all the posts!

I think XL should earn a spot on all “4core” st units, or b a cut candidate. Not likely, but he needs a kick in the ass. St seems a way to do that.

Looking at csw as a deep safety. Range? He’s lined up there, don’t know how it went.

JB is a dream scenario I’m hoping for.

Just wanted some offseason chatter.

FC, to your statement about XL’s opportunities: I agree. There seems to be a lot of online consent about him, always falling to the ground when he catches a ball, or not being able to catch it in general. I think the kid really does have skills and I’ve not commented on him much, he is still raw, but most balls are thrown at his knees, or over his head or behind him. You’re better more polished receivers than a league can adjust to that. XL may be able to, but he doesn’t have the opportunities to because when the ball is thrown his way, he has to dive for it. I honestly don’t feel like he’s had a real fair shake. There are a lot of people who will disagree with this sentiment and say he’s in the NFL that is his chance and opportunity, but if you put him with a Josh Allen or a QB, who can throw a hard ball and pinpoint it, like Caleb Williams, you would see where is skill really lies. Bryce can pinpoint from time to time. I think Bryce is a very talented quarterback, but for college, he is serviceable, but he hasn’t proven to “ the guy” period. The Talking Heads want us to believe that Bryce has shown he’s here to stay, I would say multiple games with fewer than 15 passes completed say otherwise. My issue with Bryce and the reason I’m not saying he’s necessarily done is play calling seems to be atrocious so that leaves up for the question, is it Bryce, is it the game plan, or is it the playcalling?